, there is no substitute for him talking with john boehner and it will get a deal done, it will be obama and boehner. there is nobody -- the talk about somehow or another, boehner's speakership being in jeopardy, that is nonsense, no one is coming behind him and senator mcconnell, the republican leader of the senate is up for re-election and as we saw in the senate race in kentucky a few years ago, he may have to worry about a challenge from the right if he supports a tax increase. i think president obama is doing the only sane thing he can, which is reach out to the speaker and he controls the house and, that is -- and the good news for the president is the public seems by all the polls, by the fact the election came out the way it did, to be in his corner, not the speaker's. >> rick: the president -- you want to weigh in on that? >> i just -- >> rick: americans are in favor of raising taxes on the wealthiest americans and, the president did win, november 6th. >> we have seen polls that say that, they approve tax reform and want to see real entitlement reform and want to get spending under control.